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Teachers’ Voices

Collaborative Internet Projects: An Interview with Susan Silverman About Her Passion and Hobby


"The Internet gave me the opportunity to really open the classroom walls, bring the world into the room, and collaborate with the global community."


Susan Silverman is an instructional technology integration teacher in the Comsewogue school district in Port Jefferson Station, New York, USA. She is widely known for her many successful collaborative Internet projects. What many people don't know is that Susan was once petrified of computers! In a recent interview with ROL editorial assistant Nicole Strangman, she discussed how she overcame her fear and became a trailblazer in this important area of literacy instruction. Susan has since helped scores of teachers get involved in collaborative Internet projects (including Erica Lussos and Judy McAllister and Roxie Ahlbrecht, teachers interviewed for earlier columns in the "Teachers' Voices" series). As she details in this interview, the rewards have been tremendous for both teachers and students.
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Nicole: You've become widely known in the teaching community for your fabulous collaborative Internet projects, several of which have won Miss Rumphius awards. How did you get started?
Susan: I had been a classroom teacher since 1970, mostly second grade. And I was very, very much into multicultural education. I did a lot of traveling, and I really enjoyed bringing things back from my travels and creating units around them; it made it more interesting for the children. When the Internet came, it was just a natural progression for me. It gave me the opportunity to really open the classroom walls, bring the world into the room, and collaborate with the global community.
Nicole: Were you always comfortable working with computers?
Susan: As of about 5 years ago, I was a computer phobic. If you think about the story of Sleeping Beauty, where she wanted every spindle destroyed...I wanted every computer destroyed! I was afraid of the computer! We were told we were getting two computers in the classroom, and I was devastated. "What am I going to do?" [I asked myself] "Well, I better learn it."

That's when I discovered what was out there--teachers having websites and digital portfolios for their students. It gave me the hunger to learn and be a part of it.

And then I became involved with collaborative Internet projects. It was so exciting to be a part of something big, to have the children be producers of information. My dream was to do my own project, and I started thinking about what could I do, still being so new to it all. Having been a teacher for so many years, common sense told me: I just teach myself how.

Nicole: How did you jump that first hurdle?
Susan: I did my first project, which was called An Apple a Day. It was a very simple poetry project using different poetry formats. I wasn't a very good Web designer at the time (although I did write my own HTML), but I had classes send me poetry and one picture, and I put it on a website for them. I couldn't wait to get home and check my e-mail to see who wanted to join and who was sending me information. It was the most exciting thing that ever happened in my professional career!
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Nicole: How did things evolve from there?
Susan: When I started getting involved in this, we had two computers in the classroom, but they weren't hooked up to the Internet. I wanted digital portfolios for my students, so I did the work at home and uploaded the files. Once a month, I would take the children on a field trip to the high school library where we would get to see our website. I also invited the parents to my house to show them their children's work. I got a lot of congratulatory letters from the educational community and I would send them over to my administrator.

One day my administrator said she wanted to see me. I figured they were firing me! I'll never forget it. [But] she said, "Susan, what's your motive? You're doing so much with computers. What can we do for you?"

I said, "I just have a passion for this."

She said, "Well, I think it's wonderful. We're giving you a phone line."

It's a great story! I started going to more technology conferences and writing. I wrote several articles for various online magazines, and I was getting awards for my website and sharing this with my district. The year before last I was a part-time second-grade teacher and part-time computer resource person, and it just demanded too much time. This year I became the district computer teacher, and I love it.

Nicole: So, you started out afraid of computers and knowing little about them, and ended up designing your own websites! How did you learn the necessary skills?
Susan: Oh, all of them were self-taught. It's experience; it's doing something and refining it and thinking about education in general.

What really freed me was when I stopped writing my own HTML and started using FrontPage [a commercial software package for webpage creation]. I was putting many graphics in, and I was becoming pretty proficient at scanning people's work. Then I started thinking I'd like to have a little interactivity in the projects. I came up with the idea for a word search, and went, I think, to Discovery School where you could word search printable materials for people (at that point I didn't know how to do online things so I would create activities that people would be able to print out). And it was just a natural progression, where I would decide I needed to enrich a project by linking to other resources within the theme and then would start finding websites on that topic. So, it's really been an evolution for me. It just gets better and better.

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Nicole: How are you able to help teachers in this new position as instructional technology integration teacher?
Susan: When people ask me what I do, one of the things I say is I try to get teachers to take the dust covers off their computers. I am there as a resource. With Judy and Erica, who were working on the American Revolutionary War, I asked them, "How would you like your students to create something?" I ended up working with some of their students on KidPix [a commercial software package for multimedia art creation]. I went into Erica's class and we created quizzes on Quia. We collaborated, and I did the Web work.

So, that's one of the things I'll do: if teachers want to create something, I'll work with them. I'll find projects for them to join. I"ll go in and demonstrate lessons. Basically I'll do anything that I can to be a resource for them.

Nicole: You must invest a lot of time in these projects!
Susan: Oh, absolutely. I could not have done it when my children were younger.... I have a lot of support from my husband, and I do spend most of my time doing this. Most people should not be expected to put in these kinds of hours. I'll say that at technology conferences, because people will look at my work and say, "Oh my God!" And I'll say, "But you have to understand that this is my passion; this is my hobby; this is what I choose to do."

School districts need technology integration specialists like myself to work with teachers. It's very, very hard to do it alone. It's an important job. There ought to be more of [us] around.

Nicole: Your Internet projects are terrifically useful to teachers. Let's talk a bit about your Apple Bytes project, which won a Miss Rumphius award, and how it helped you to help teachers.
Susan: A perfect example would be what Roxie Ahlbrecht [a participating teacher in Apple Bytes] did. Roxie's students did a takeoff on the picture book by Laura Numeroff, If You Give a Mouse a Cookie. They created a model for other children. I showed some of Cheryl Singer's [a teacher in Susan's district] students the work that Roxie's students had done, and they loved it! I asked them if they thought they could write similar stories. The work that Roxie's class had done helped them to understand what they needed to do, and with partners they wrote and illustrated poems.

There is a perfect example of how this type of project gives teachers something concrete to use. Some children need a lot of repetition. It's so nice to be able to say, "Why don't you go back to the computer and see what your classmates did?" The student is able to take his or her time, look it over, and have a concrete understanding of what he or she needs to do. Once again, you're taking the role of the teacher from the sage on the stage to the guide on the side. You're facilitating.

Another thing is the online activities that are there, and just giving teachers ideas of things that they can do. Also, these exemplary teachers are networking among themselves.

So, it's probably the most exciting thing that has happened in my career, the most powerful tool.

Nicole: It must be very empowering for teachers to be involved in this sort of project.
Susan: Oh, absolutely! If you look at Apple Bytes, you'll notice that some of the online activities were actually created by project participants because I really wanted it to be a collaborative effort. When I write to people, I always say it's our project.
Nicole: From the students' perspective, what's the best part about these projects?
Susan: On all my projects, I have a section where children can assess the work. I'm always looking for what they like. And children love the online activities, they like the e-mail.... They're very, very positive.

When I was teaching second grade, I had a ball doing Frosty Readers. During the month of January when it's cold and snowy and the kids are kind of let down because Christmas is over, how wonderful it was to be able to say, "Oh, look at the book these kids from Arkansas just read." The kids would get so motivated that they would go to the library, get the book, and bring it to class. Then I'd read it, and they'd say, "Oh, they did a poem, or they did [something else]. Can we do it?"

"Of course!"

"Can we write a play like they did?"

"Sure! You know how?"

"Well they did it; we know how!"

Not to mention the communication that goes on between classes where students will write congratulatory letters to each other. They love getting feedback from their online peers.

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Nicole: Are there any other aspects that students seem to particularly enjoy?
Susan: I get letters from former students. I recently received a letter from a student I had 4 years ago, and he said, "Mrs. Silverman, I was just looking at my portfolio and it just brought back such wonderful memories of being in the second grade." It's nice to know they have this to go back to and reflect on. And the same thing with the collaborative projects... My projects remain a resource for years to come. When children get older they can look at the poem they wrote,they can look at the story they wrote, and they can reflect and say, "Gee, this is where I was at this time. How has my writing improved?" It's a very good assessment tool.
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Nicole: What is a good way for someone who doesn't have your skills to get started with Internet projects?
Susan: Well, one of the things that I tell people is to join a project that is simple. Travel buddy projects are so simple: you trade travel buddies [stuffed animals you mail to a class in a different area] with another class. When the stuffed animal arrives, each child gets to take it home for a day, write about it in their journal, and then read their story [to the class]. Once a week, you e-mail the other class. And then the travel buddy goes in a box, and the kids put all sorts of things in there, and you send it back.

There are tons of projects out there to join. Join something that you feel comfortable with; don't join one that expects you to use skills you are not comfortable with. Or join something like my projects--and, if you don't have time, get a class parent to send me the information. Or if you don't know how to scan something, I am sure there is a parent who would love to do that.

Nicole: What are some good teacher resources?
Susan: There is a website called Quia. It's really nice because there are a whole bunch of activities for kids to do, and if the teacher wants to create something, it's so user friendly. You can have a presence on the Web without having a website. Another one is FunBrain. There are a whole bunch of activities for kids, and you can post your homework.

The other thing I would recommend is visiting Teachers.Net. There are lesson plans. There's a chat board by grade level and subject area, where you ask questions and get help. Once a week they'll have an online auditorium with a guest teacher. It's wonderful--very user friendly, a great place for computer-phobic teachers.

Nicole: What are some personal rewards of doing these projects?
Susan: Oh, I could go on forever about it. There is this class in Alabama that joined one of my projects with a school media specialist. She took a chance by joining, because the community really was very uncomfortable with the Internet. They'd heard a lot of bad stories; they didn't want to get involved in it. She decided to take a risk and had her children join; I think it was Frosty Readers. Well, when the parents saw it, they were so thrilled... It just changed their attitude completely!

Then I had a class from a school in Canada that was so excited about being on a project that they purchased computers.

So I really feel like these projects have had such a positive impact. To have such a positive influence on places that I haven't been, people that I haven't met. For me, it's really the most rewarding part of my career.

Nicole: What has the Miss Rumphius award meant to you?
Susan: It has meant a great deal to me, because it's really nice to know that people like Don Leu [professor of education at University of Connecticut, USA, and moderator of the RTEACHER listserv, issuer of the Miss Rumphius Award] , who I have such respect for, respect what I'm doing. I need that positive reinforcement. These are exemplary teachers, so it's really nice to know that you are being acknowledged by peers that you have a lot of respect for. That is the most important thing to me... It just makes me want to keep going.




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Citation: Strangman, N. (2002, February). Collaborative Internet projects: An interview with Susan Silverman about her passion and hobby. Reading Online, 5(6). Available: http://www.readingonline.org/articles/art_index.asp?HREF=voices/silverman/index.html




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Posted February 2002
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